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00:01

<TheLetterX>

TheLetterX has script problems

00:01

<TheLetterX>

Is that the toolserver.org:81?

00:02

<_mary_kate_>

yes. except if you opt for this test, your normal URLs will use the new server

00:02

<_mary_kate_>

(which means if you use .htaccess, you should test it on :81 first)

00:06

<tsbot>

RSS: linuxkernel: 2.6.27-rc5-git1: stable snapshot <http://www.kernel.org/kdist/fragments/stable_snapshot.html>

00:21

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03River Tarnell * 10/: [Toolserver-l] new server testing, stage 2

00:57

<msgbot>

3(created) [ST-47] STBotI mess up welcome message on user talk page; ST47's tools: STBotI; Bug <10https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/ST-47> (Kwan Ting Chan)

03:46

<SQLDb>

Hmm

03:46

<SQLDb>

_mary_kate_: -bash: /opt/zeus/webadmin-4.3r4/bin/convert_rewrite: No such file or directory

05:37

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03Agony * 10/: Re: [Toolserver-l] help test a new web server

05:49

<Agony>

river seen lately?

06:16

<Werdna>

_mary_kate_ == river

06:31

<Agony>

Werdna: thank you :)

06:44

<SQLDb>

heh

06:49

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03SQL * 10/: Re: [Toolserver-l] help test a new web server

06:54

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03SQL * 10/: Re: [Toolserver-l] help test a new web server

07:18

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03MinuteElectron * 10/: Re: [Toolserver-l] help test a new web server

07:29

<fale>

hi

07:38

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03SQL * 10/: Re: [Toolserver-l] help test a new web server

08:02

<wikirc>

[[ZWS]] 10https://wiki.toolserver.org/.../index.php?title=ZWS&diff=1364&oldid=1363&rcid=1715 * Bryan * (+11) (+on hemlock)

08:25

<wikirc>

[[Tools outside Toolserver]] N 10https://wiki.toolserver.org/.../index.php?title=Tools_outside_Toolserver&rcid=1716 * Никола Смоленски * (+783) (New page: This is a list of tools that you might expect to find on the Toolserver, but are hosted somewhere else. * [http://vs.aka-online.de/wikipedia.html AKA's Wikipedia tools] ** GlobalWPSearch ...)

08:29

<_mary_kate_>

SQLDb: convert_rewrite is on hemlock

08:29

<Werdna>

hi _mary_kate_

08:32

<_mary_kate_>

hello

08:32

<Werdna>

Werdna wrestling with lighttpd

08:33

<Werdna>

they seem not to have a such thing as boolean conditionals in their config files :/

08:33

<_mary_kate_>

$variable = "value" { opts... }

08:34

<Werdna>

boolean

08:34

<Werdna>

as in $HTTP["host"] == 'wiki.epstone.net' || $HTTP["host"] == 'testwiki.epstone.net' { opts.. }

08:39

<Werdna>

_mary_kate_: I'm tempted to give up and just put the same config section twice with the separate conditions.

08:41

<_mary_kate_>

use a real web server ;)

08:41

<_mary_kate_>

or use ~= (a|b)

08:41

<Werdna>

lighttpd is better than apache...

08:41

<Werdna>

ew.

08:42

<Werdna>

but that's better than putting the same section twice.

08:43

<_mary_kate_>

in my completely meaningless apachebench test, lighttpd managed only 15,000 req/s, while 44,000 req/s, while sjs web server managed 75,000 req/s

08:45

<Werdna>

I don't mean that in a speed sense. I just like lighttpd better.

08:59

<msgbot>

3(created) [TS-153] enable the new web server for my url's; Toolserver; Task <10https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-153> (Luxo )

08:59

<_mary_kate_>

Luxo: you could just ask here ;)

08:59

<Luxo>

:P

08:59

<_mary_kate_>

anyway, done

08:59

<Luxo>

thx

09:01

<Luxo>

_mary_kate_: where you come from? I thought USA, there is night :D

09:05

<_mary_kate_>

UK

09:06

<_mary_kate_>

Duesentrieb: if people ask for their stuff to be converted to zws, just add a proxypass in apache2.conf like the existing one for ~river

09:06

<Duesentrieb>

zws?

09:06

<Duesentrieb>

oh, the new webserver thingy?

09:06

<Duesentrieb>

kk

09:06

<_mary_kate_>

yerah

10:14

<Agony>

_mary_kate_: Proxy error: Error reading from remote server and now I don't get even that reply...

10:15

<Agony>

ok, now same error (Error reading from remote server), it just took ~three minutes to appear

10:43

<LA2>

why does CatScan take minutes to get the end of the HTML page across, while the CSV comes instantly?

10:44

<LA2>

something is not closing or flushing the connection as it should

10:44

<LA2>

is that the FCGI switchboard?

10:46

<Duesentrieb>

might be logging-related. though that would effect CVS too.

10:46

<Duesentrieb>

no clue, actually

10:46

<Pathoschild>

Duesentrieb: Could you remove closed-zh-twwiki-p from toolserver.wiki? It seems to have been deleted, and it doesn't seem to have a replicated database on the toolserver.

10:47

<LA2>

am I the only one experiencing this problem, or do you see it as well?

10:47

<Duesentrieb>

LA2: i have seen it before, but inconsistently

10:48

<Duesentrieb>

Pathoschild: removing stuff by hand is always a bit dogy, because it'll resurface at some point. but if the db is no longer there, i guess it's ok

10:48

<LA2>

is the long result list built with string concatenation in a way that wastes far too much memory, and the process gets thrown out?

10:48

<Pathoschild>

Thanks. :)

10:48

<LA2>

that could be a difference between HTML output and CSV

10:49

<LA2>

perhaps do a print for each line instead of building the entire page as one string?

10:50

<Duesentrieb>

Pathoschild: gone

10:50

<Duesentrieb>

LA2: i don't.

10:50

<Duesentrieb>

though php may be doing some buffering

10:51

<Duesentrieb>

but... no i don't think it does.

10:51

<Duesentrieb>

results often come "incrementally".

10:51

<LA2>

often 90% of the result list comes, and I'm waiting many minutes for the last rows

10:52

<Pathoschild>

Duesentrieb: Whee, thanks. :)

10:56

<Duesentrieb>

LA2: sorry, i simply don't know why... and it's sadly very tricky to find out.

10:58

<LA2>

_mary_kate_: does the FCGI switchboard provide any statistics on how CatScan behaves, to aid Duesentrieb ?

10:58

<Duesentrieb>

statistics don't help.

10:58

<LA2>

oh, it always does

10:59

<Duesentrieb>

i'd need to disable all buffering, profile each step, and hope that doing that doesn't interfere with the cause of the problem.

10:59

<Duesentrieb>

i have timing stats in my own log. i suspect that might be a couase of the trouble. but as i said, that would affect CST too

10:59

<Duesentrieb>

are you ure it never happens for CSV?

11:02

<LA2>

not sure

11:02

<LA2>

do the output bytes pass through the FCGI switchboard?

11:02

<LA2>

or how does that work?

11:06

<Agony>

what is "xx_labswikimedia_p"?

11:06

<Agony>

(xx = lang)

11:07

<VasilievVV>

Agony: en.labs.wikimedia.org

11:07

<Agony>

earlier test.wikipedia.org?

11:21

<VasilievVV>

Agony: no, they are seperate tests

12:06

<tsbot>

RSS: linuxkernel: 2.6.27-rc5-git2: stable snapshot <http://www.kernel.org/kdist/fragments/stable_snapshot.html>

14:14

<Betacommand>

ST47: you about?

14:15

<ST47>

Sure, sort of

14:15

<ST47>

Trying to figure out why PWP won't save

17:27

<Betacommand>

anyone here good with sql and screens?

19:00

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03Magnus Manske * 10/: Re: [Toolserver-l] help test a new web server

19:11

<fale>

hi guys

19:13

<SQLDb>

hi fale

19:13

<fale>

hi SQLDb

20:22

<Bryan>

hmm what would be the proper way to limit the execution time of a child process?

20:23

<Bryan>

while reading stdout

20:23

<Bryan>

alarms don't work with threads

20:24

<Bryan>

oh of course select

20:25

<Duesentrieb>

ulimit?

20:27

<Bryan>

that appears to be something shell related

20:29

<Duesentrieb>

i think you are right. dunno what it's using internally - because that's what you would want to be using too, i suppose

20:30

<Duesentrieb>

though starting child processes via a shell may be an option. depending on what you are doing

22:22

<Danny_B>

does wikipedia.de run on any of toolservers?

22:24

<saper>

donated

22:24

<saper>

Wikimedia Deutschland donated some

22:32

<Danny_B>

saper: you probably misunderstood me. i wonder if the wikipedia.de site runs on any of servers from toolserver group or if it is hosted anywhere else

23:14

<saper>

netname: DOMAINFACTORY-20070312

23:14

<saper>

netname: DOMAINFACTORY-20070312 descr: Infrastructure

23:14

<saper>

wikipedia.de and wikimedia.de are within 80.67.25.0/24

23:15

<saper>

tools.wikimedia.de (and other toolservers) are on 91.198.174.0/24

23:15

<saper>

that's netname: WIKIMEDIA-EU-NET

23:15

<saper>

so, they are most probably hosted completely separately

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