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00:23

<tsbot>

RSS: linuxkernel: 2.6.27-rc5: stable prepatch <http://www.kernel.org/kdist/fragments/stable_prepatch.html>

01:44

<_mary_kate_>

SQLDb: didn't i tell people not to distribute toolserver.org:81 URLs? ;P

01:45

<SQLDb>

_mary_kate_: I believe so, I assume I've screwed up and done so?

01:45

<SQLDb>

oh, I know where.

01:46

<SQLDb>

_mary_kate_: fixed, I had the wrong tab, sorry.

01:46

<_mary_kate_>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets#User:Skyeromer

01:46

<SQLDb>

already edited out

01:46

<_mary_kate_>

ok

01:47

<SQLDb>

I had a couple tools open in the new one, playing with them, and, I meant to run that (and link from) the tab that was on the apache ws :/

10:48

<_mary_kate_>

Duesentrieb: i think user.log is even iller than before

10:48

<_mary_kate_>

--w----r-T 1 root adm 39227076 2008-08-29 10:45 /var/log/user.log

10:48

<_mary_kate_>

(i think it probably wants 0644 rather than 644 in the config ;)

10:53

<Duesentrieb>

uh...

10:54

<Duesentrieb>

damn :)

10:56

<Duesentrieb>

_mary_kate_: thanks for fixing it, will fix it on nightshade too

10:57

<Duesentrieb>

uh, what permission is "T" ?

10:57

<_mary_kate_>

sticky bit without executable bit

10:57

<Duesentrieb>

hmkay

10:58

<_mary_kate_>

(like S, setuid without executable)

10:58

<Duesentrieb>

...what good is setupid without exec bit?

10:58

<Duesentrieb>

err, setuid

10:58

<_mary_kate_>

nothing, but you can still set it

10:58

<Duesentrieb>

:P

10:59

<Duesentrieb>

i still don't get when syslog resets the permissions

11:00

<Duesentrieb>

not on restart, it seems

11:00

<_mary_kate_>

perhaps during SIGHUP

11:00

<_mary_kate_>

logrotate gives it one at 3AM each day

11:00

<Duesentrieb>

hm... possibly

11:13

<_mary_kate_>

hmm, should filter php from logcheck

11:48

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03Pietrodn * 10/: Re: [Toolserver-l] help test a new web server

13:25

<_mary_kate_>

i fixed /usr/local/bin/sql to work with user databases

13:26

<Werdna>

_mary_kate_: o hai, thx.

13:26

<_mary_kate_>

Werdna: did you test the new server yet?!?

13:28

<Werdna>

_mary_kate_: I has no web-based tools.

13:30

<_mary_kate_>

pah

13:30

<Werdna>

_mary_kate_: I was thinking of adding a bulk checker for the abuse filter parser, though.

13:32

<_mary_kate_>

how long until you're 18?

13:32

<Werdna>

January.

13:42

<Werdna>

_mary_kate_: presumably there's some sort of compromise you can come up with, where I have root on the application servers, but no access to the database servers.

13:42

<_mary_kate_>

possibly

13:44

<Werdna>

I mean, they're *different* servers, and AFAIK sudoers is granular enough.

13:48

<_mary_kate_>

brion is away for a week anyway, so i can't ask him now

13:49

<Werdna>

Werdna shrugs.

13:50

<Werdna>

Just a thought.

13:58

<Duesentrieb>

_mary_kate_: could we exclude php notices from the logcheck mails?

13:58

<_mary_kate_>

i did

13:58

<_mary_kate_>

/etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/php

13:58

<Duesentrieb>

ah, ok. thanks

13:58

<_mary_kate_>

only notices, probably errors and warnings could go too

13:59

<Duesentrieb>

errors are good to have imho

13:59

<Duesentrieb>

not sure about warnings

13:59

<_mary_kate_>

i removed switchboard 'request failed' errors too as those aren't very interesting

14:01

<_mary_kate_>

Duesentrieb: werdna was wondering if we could give him root on hemlock and nightshade only (and willow, i suppose)

14:06

<Duesentrieb>

"only" compared to what?

14:06

<Werdna>

including db servers.

14:08

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03Kalan * 10/: Re: [Toolserver-l] help test a new web server

14:09

<Duesentrieb>

well, i don't have any objections, but tbh, i know nothing about werdna, really :) besides from what i see on irc, of course.

14:09

<_mary_kate_>

well, brion seemed to have no objection in general, only that he doesn't want more people having access to internal wikis

14:09

<_mary_kate_>

(which is why we haven't been able to add any roots for months)

14:13

<_mary_kate_>

hmm, so it makes sense to justify the cost of buying a web server if it means we can save money not buying a new server, right?

14:14

<_mary_kate_>

_mary_kate_ is really liking zws

14:15

<BryanTM>

no sponsorships because we're a charity?

14:15

<_mary_kate_>

likely a discount

14:16

<_mary_kate_>

probably not free, but you never know

14:16

<Bryan>

Wikimedia runs Zeus webserver sounds like very good advertising

14:16

<Bryan>

of course then you should not tell them that TS is not run by Wikimedia

14:16

<_mary_kate_>

heh

14:17

<_mary_kate_>

fortunately my email address is @wikimedia.org, not @wikimedia.de ;)

14:17

<_mary_kate_>

(except once when a vendor required a wikimedia.de address, that was annoying)

14:18

<Bryan>

I think people read wikimedia.de as de.wikipedia anyway

14:19

<_mary_kate_>

http://www.zeus.com/.../zeus-technology-chosen-by-online-software-provider-ntractive.html

14:19

<_mary_kate_>

i guess the like press releases

14:23

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03Christian Thiele * 10/: Re: [Toolserver-l] help test a new web server

14:30

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03River Tarnell * 10/: Re: [Toolserver-l] help test a new web server

15:19

<_mary_kate_>

oh, here's a useful script

15:19

<_mary_kate_>

/opt/zeus/webadmin-4.3r4/bin/convert_rewrite $HOME/public_html/.htaccess

15:22

<CIA-39>

toolserver-l: 03River Tarnell * 10/: Re: [Toolserver-l] help test a new web server

16:06

<wikirc>

[[ZWS]] N 10https://wiki.toolserver.org/w/index.php?title=ZWS&rcid=1713 * River * (+1635) (New page: Currently, we're testing a new web server (ZWS) on the toolserver. If you'd like to help test your tools using ZWS, just change <tt>'''toolserver.org'''</tt> in the URL to <tt>'''toolserv...)

18:34

<wikirc>

[[ZWS]] 10https://wiki.toolserver.org/.../index.php?title=ZWS&diff=1363&oldid=1362&rcid=1714 * River * (+205) ()

18:36

<VasilVV>

_mary_kate_: may you create FR views for enwikinews and ruwiki, please?

18:43

<_mary_kate_>

what cluster are those?

18:51

<VasilVV>

_mary_kate_: s3 (at least ruwiki)

18:52

<_mary_kate_>

okay, running mkviews

19:03

<VasilVV>

thanks _mary_kate_

19:05

<_mary_kate_>

VasilVV: finished

19:06

<_mary_kate_>

Bryan: have you moved all your stuff from old-stable by now, or you need more time?

19:06

<Bryan>

done some months ago

19:06

<_mary_kate_>

ok

19:06

<Bryan>

didn't I tell you already?

19:07

<_mary_kate_>

i knew CD moved, thought there's some other stuff

19:07

<Bryan>

yeah did those as well

19:11

<_mary_kate_>

i really wish linux had used 'amd64' to refer to 64-bit x86, it's much less ugly than x86_64

19:11

<_mary_kate_>

x86_64-pc-linux-gnu < wtf

19:12

<carl-m|away>

uname -sr : Linux 2.6.24-1-amd64

19:12

<_mary_kate_>

carl-m|away: uname -m

19:12

<carl-m|away>

Debian calls it amd64 at least

19:12

<MinuteElectron>

amd64 is vendor specifc

19:12

<MinuteElectron>

no?

19:12

<_mary_kate_>

MinuteElectron: i386 isn't?

19:12

<_mary_kate_>

what does i stand for? :)

19:12

<MinuteElectron>

i see

19:12

<MinuteElectron>

heh

19:13

<_mary_kate_>

at least netbsd, freebsd and solaris used amd64... i think only linux calls it x86_64

19:13

<_mary_kate_>

(Windows seems to use x64, which is less bad)

19:13

<carl-m|away>

you're writing code that checks that?

19:13

<_mary_kate_>

no

19:14

<_mary_kate_>

i just saw it in the access log, since curl puts the host triplet there

19:14

<_mary_kate_>

and thought how ugly it was ;)

20:23

<enhydra>

_mary_kate_, when I try to access phpmyadmin using a tunnel to toolserver.org:80, I get an error message from FastCGI switchboard; could you fix it?

20:24

<_mary_kate_>

try now

20:26

<enhydra>

it works, thanks

21:43

<_mary_kate_>

hm curious, ZWS has its own FCGI-like interface called ZDAC

21:43

<_mary_kate_>

wonder if it's any good

22:09

<_mary_kate_>

^X^: stop doing that

22:09

<^X^>

I'm trying out new nicks, but they're all taken

22:09

<_mary_kate_>

Duesentrieb: lots of these in the log: Aug 29 21:23:10 hemlock php-cgi: PHP Fatal error: Class 'WikiAccess' not found in /home/daniel/public_html/WikiSense-live/common/WikiSense.php on line 478

22:10

<VasilievVV>

^X^: use /ns info or seperate connection

22:10

<VasilievVV>

Or just /quote join 0 (do not type!)

22:11

<Duesentrieb>

_mary_kate_: yes, i just saw that too.

22:11

<Duesentrieb>

_mary_kate_: odd. indicates a missing include. i'm guessing at an illegal entry point... any clue how to see what request caused it?

22:12

<_mary_kate_>

collelate the timestamp to a request ;)

22:14

<_mary_kate_>

soXred: stop doing that

22:14

<soXred>

I've found my final one

22:14

<_mary_kate_>

you are annoying every channel you're in

22:14

<soXred>

That's done

22:19

<Duesentrieb>

_mary_kate_: all i see is requests to wikiproxy. but they work when i try them.

22:19

<Duesentrieb>

od

22:20

<Duesentrieb>

d

23:47

<_mary_kate_>

anyone have (fast)CGI/PHP scripts causing issues and want to test them with ZWS instead?

23:47

<_mary_kate_>

(for all users, not using :81)

23:55

<_mary_kate_>

or anyone have scripts _not_ causing problems, but still want to test them on zws for all users?

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