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MZMcBride: s1: 1s [-0.01 sec/sec]; s2: 3s [no change]; s3: 3s [-0.23 sec/sec] (5h 2m 19s sample)

It's ok to use a PHP framework that I didn't write, as long as it is open source, right?

huh?

MZMcBride: any count of expired IP talk pages yet?

Not yet.

My query got killed earlier. I'm about to re-run it.

Carl-m: I found a framework for drawing graphs written in PHP, but I'm unsure if it should be allowed or nor

I think that as long as it's legal, toolserver is fine with it

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does anyone here have a windows system with opera installed?

yes

opera 9.52

windows xp sp 2

can you go to confluence.toolserver.org, edit something and see if you can preview it? (just click preview, no need to actually edit)

feel free to test in IE as well ;)

Able to preview in Opera 9.52.

hm.

it doesn't work for me with 9.52 in solaris

uh wait, now it does. wtf

Able to preview in Internet Explorer 7

apparently, zeus has some kind of integrated setuid php support.. i wonder if it's any good

i wonder if it's possible to cache CGIs by having a perl interpreter load the script and execute it several times

a bit like php fastcgi, but for perl

hmm... so zeus has built-in support for switchboard's functionality. and it's much faster

Requests per second: 4671.30 [#/sec] (mean)

Is it possible to update your user table based on data in a wiki's database? I get UPDATE command denied to user 'erwin85'@'nightshade.toolserver.org' for table 'logging' when trying to do http://rafb.net/p/3cQaPh64.html It should only read the logging table and update u_erwin85.pp_nlwiki_p.

_mary_kate_: ehhhmmm..

_mary_kate_: seems that my IP is banned again :(

Anyone? (See above.)

erwin85: i suggest rewriting it as a subquery

update a set x=(select some stuff from nlwiki_p.foo);

probably slower, though

Filnik: are you sure that's your IP? i don't see it in the deny list of the auth log

Hmm.. I need to set three columns so I'd like to join, but it appears that isn't possible. I'll try the subquery.

_mary_kate_: yes I am

fil@deeder:~$ ssh toolserver

ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host

Filnik tries to reboot..

_mary_kate_ wonders what 'toolserver' is

Subqueries work. Thanks. Theyubqueries take 37.79 sec. Don't know what a left join would have taken.

*They take

(now it works)

3(created) [MAGNUS-80] Only last upload shows up in upload history; Magnus's tools: CommonsHelper; Bug <10https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/MAGNUS-80> (ChrisiPK )

who wants to help test a new web server?

no one?

me

do you have some php, fcgi or cgi scripts? (especially ones that don't work well under switchboard)

no

not much help for you, sorry

oh well

i guess you could test static file serving ;)

oh, do you use .htaccess rules?

i suppose so

no, id on't

well, actually, just a DirectoryINdex

Luxo: you want to help test stuff, right? ;)

ok

take a script that doesn't work very well and change http://toolserver.org/ to http://toolserver.org:81/

and see if it works any better

seems to work better

yeah I don't become errors

okay

(don't distribute that url, it's not permanent, only for testing)

yep

the only thing i can't make work is the cgi-bin directory (but .cgi files work)..

aha, got it

hm, zeus's rewrite scripts are nicer

rather more powerful than mod_rewrite, and easier to read

_mary_kate_: what is new web server?

http://www.zeus.com/products/zws/index.html

VasilievVV wonders when _mary_kate_ will install custom PHP interpreter, because it is the only standard thing he has not changed anywhere

we already use a custom php handler (switchboard) - ZWS has the same functionality built-in

(and it's much faster)

and it supports most of apache's .htaccess, which the other servers i looked at didn't

So all LAMP components are now changed somewhere :)

well, we still use M (sadly)

can't really change that one ;)

_mary_kate_: you use Postgres on tswiki :)

mainly because everything else there uses pg

using mw with pg is a little annoying, but less annoying than having to run two databases ;)

_mary_kate_: I'm getting "Error 400 Bad Request" for .htacccess-controlled tools that do work on :80

example?

dungodung: ?

http://www.toolserver.org:81/~dungodung/cgi-bin/pywiki

(sry)

ah

it's because of the www.

without it, it works

ah. let me add an alias..

dungodung lets you

now it works with www.

indeed it does. thx

[28/Aug/2008:20:41:54 +0200] "GET /~jsmith/cgi-bin/myscript HTTP/1.1" 404 1193

i guess someone took that list post quite literally ;)

ST47 was going to click the link, until he read it and realized

hm wtf, $TZ got screwed again

i guess dab sets $TZ in his env, then restarts sshd...

is /var/log/user.log on hemlock not longer readable? I become a permission denied

i guess it got rotated

rotated?

hi

Duesentrieb: did you change the perms on user.log to something more relaxed? it seems to have lost them

on the old login server sqlite3 was installed. on the current one it isn't. it would be nice if it could bei nstalled.

_mary_kate_: i did on hemlock, not on nightshade. if it list them... death to logrotate

err, lost

Duesentrieb: sit doesn't seem to have been rotated

huh. wtf?

kju: now it's installed

_mary_kate_: tnx

bye

_mary_kate_: any clue what could have done that?

wow, syslog-ng'd config file really sucks

Duesentrieb: other than logrotate... no

-rw-r----- 1 root adm 3888 2007-12-10 18:39 /var/log/user.log.0

wtf is that?

the first rotated logfile

but...why?

?

hacker! :P

well, it's not compressed. and number 1 is newer than nuber 4.

all are from august

so what the hell is that 0 thing doing there sitting around?

i think someone has changed from rotating to .0 to .1

there are other .0 files

s/someone/something

yea, probably

did you test the new web server? ;)

no RewriteRules :(

_mary_kate_: no didn't yet.

still musing about wtf syslog is doing to file permissions, and why.

hm... no restart since i did that, right?...

no

hmm, well dab did an upgrade the other day

not sure if syslog got upgraded

Bryan: it has a nice rewrite language but it doesn't seem to be accessible to users. i might ask them if there's a way around that

STIME: Aug22

does it have something like plugins?

Bryan: yes. NSAPI and ISAPI, and mod_perl

(NSAPI = sjs web server plugins, ISAPI = IIS plugins)

I meant more like plugins for the htaccess handler

well i'd assume plugins can add new htaccess options

so perhaps a rewrite module could be written

_mary_kate_ goes looking for a manual

heh.. the first example ISAPI plugin is a URL rewriter ;)

:P

I imagine that it will no problem then

well, i'm probably not go to rewrite all of mod_rewrite as a module

but the basic functionality is probably doable

hmm, i bet .htaccess rewrites don't help performance

that sounds logical

Duesentrieb: Kannst du die chmods vom log noch ändern?

Luxo: klar, die frage ist blos, ob das dann bleibt

Luxo: done. for now.

würde nur gerne schnell reingucken ob da was von mir drinn ist (bzgl. query.php), dannach ist es mir egal ;)

Bryan: btw, did you see you can use fastcgi on hemlock now? (.fcgi files)

yes but I haven't had the time to look how it works

and now I have had some beer

hehe kolossos fill the log with his notices

no idea why warnigns get logged at all. they shouldn't.

hmm, seems like some people already wrote mod_rewrite-alike modules for IIS

which is also using ISAPI modules

although most of them seem to be closed-source windows binaries

hm, found an open source one that even uses the same syntax as mod_rewrite

no .htaccess support, but that could be added

_mary_kate_: what new server is it you're trying? :)

http://www.zeus.com/products/zws/index.html

ahh

does not seem to work with MediaWiki

no?

?

at least not in the same config that worked on apache

http://toolserver.org:81/~sql/ra/wiki/Main_Page

do you use rewrite?

erm, you probably can't see that

yeah

that's not supported

ahh, there ya go then :P

(but i'm looking at a third-party module that would support it)

what's the price they want for this server? "call [...] to discuss your requirements" ...

didn't get a price yet

they seemed open to non profit discounts ;)

_mary_kate_: that $TZ stuff is pretty nasty :)

yes indeed

Duesentrieb: you mean format?

what?

VasilievVV remembers how did he try to parse zoneinfo files

The most ridiculous thing that TZ=GMT+1 is really UTC-1

VasilievVV: the problem was the if you have TZ set and restart crond, crond will run on that TZ. so, if you have a sudoer with a non-utc tz, this may cause trouble :)

_mary_kate_: i think i found something. man, they syntax syslog-ng uses for the config file is a bit over the top...

yeah really

old-style syslog.conf is much easier to read, whch seems rather backwards

_mary_kate_: restarting syslogd on hemlock, to test this

hm... at least it didn't change it back... trying on nightshade now

hm... no... that didn't do it...

_mary_kate_: setting perm(644) for user.log in the config file didn't change the file's permission to that on restart. but i guess the file will be created like that from now on.

_mary_kate_: let's just hope for the best, i guess :o)

btw: #syslog-ng exists...

Bryan: i found a way to let users write Zeus rewrite scripts in $HOME/rewrite.script

i think that's probably enough

yep

(the admin interface has a neat thing that converts Apache rewriterules into zeus scripts, but i don't think it's publicly accessible anywhere..)

SQLDb: wanna test that? ;)

who configured suexec here yet?

need help in it

_mary_kate_: test what now? :)

SQLDb: rewrite.script

for your wiki

(sorry, making dinner, and, the kids won't leave me be :P)

sure

okay

It's just a test wiki to demonstrate an extension we're working on anyhow, no big deal if it's down for a bit :P

so you need to create a file called $HOME/rewrite.script and write some rules in it. there are some examples on the website (http://support.zeus.com/zws/examples - "request rewriting") and it's documented in section 8.7 of the manual (http://support.zeus.com/zws/media/docs/4.3/ZWSUserGuide.pdf)

don't waste too much time on it, just curious how well it works

ahh

Should I still leave my .htaccess?

(It's got the htpasswd stuff)

yeah you can leave that

it'll ignore the unknown directives

ahh, k

wow heh

I'll poke this in a little while :P

i might see if there's an online version of the apache rewrite convertor

...Just when I finally learned apache rewriting too :P

heh

it's basically the same, just the syntax is different

(i think it's much easier to read, but it is more verbose)

yeah

heh, if there's an offline rewrite convertor I could probably use that too :P

there's one in the web interface... if you give me some rules i can do it there

hrmph, my host complained about the flood of 7000 mails from all the jira tickets resulting from the smtp cockup :(

heh. sorry

i fixed postmaster mail not to go to jira

so now you'll just get 7,000 mails addressed to you

at least then i won'Ät get everything twice :)

why do you get it twice?

because i have two jira accounts

because of shared login

daniel, and duesentrieb

i should fix one of them not to send mail i suppose :)

hm nice

you can configure ulimits and max run time for cgi scripts