is c99 constructs valid within ON?

doing something liek if (...) { foo_t *bar; .... }

that's not a c99 construct.

oh, thought that's when it was added

C has ~always allowed declarations at the start of an inner block.

well ignoring that, is it still considered acceptable?

yes

cool.. thanks

jbk finishes up this patch

jbk and or sstallion_work , around?

actually, nevermind

i'm retarded

e^ipi: yeah, one sec

nah, it's nothing, i was going to ask if you guys wanted to post a stub of a driver somewhere before i remembered that it's in the DDI guide

ahh

i think i managed to get a cold either on the way back from tucson or yesterday in the office

e^ipi or jbk: you guys see my question?

no

This is what I'm getting when trying to link: a GOT relative relocation must reference a local symbol

b81, studio 12

heh no idea :)

blast

;)

the only thing google returns is guy who had the same problem building xorg stuff about a year ago

s/is guy/is a guy/

i have no idea what you're going on about

jesus christ freenode is brain damaged today

is Package Manager supposed to be able to run as a standard user?

It disappears when running from GNOME, and 'Image' object has no attribute 'gen_known_package_fmris' error when I try to run it from a terminal.

rorx: you can run it as a standard user if they have an administration profile

otherwise, not

(it's likely there are bugs)

hey all

Gman: hmm, su'ing to root and running it, gives me the same error. Do I have to login to GNOME as root to use it?

Does anyone remember me asking a few days ago about using SPARC arch with opensolaris?

rorx: no, then it sounds like there's a bug

and someone recommending SXCE

rorx: did you update your install of 2008.05 with 'image-update'?

(or clicking the update image button in the package manager)

seems to me like it did run when I ran it on the 'jack' account, on the LiveCD, but this is from a fresh install.

there was a known bug if you did that, then it gets you into a buggy state

rorx: fresh install of 2008.05?

rorx: untouched otherwise?

kupo: vaguely

Gman: right, plus the 3 pfexec commands that are listed on the website, to update IPS I think.

rorx: right, that sounds strange then that the packagemanager gui doesn't work

rorx: as a workaround, i assume you can install from the terminal with pkg(1)?

Gman: I've also installed VirtualBox, oh and the flash plugin, that's about it so far.

rorx: ok, shouldn't have caused your issues

Gman: but check this out then: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/ under Compatible

wouldn't that read that opensolaris is compatible with ultrasparc architechture?

Gman: This is my first use of pkg, so I haven't used it, other than for updating IPS.. but it seemed to work ok for that task at least.

kupo: opensolaris the os (from opensolaris.com) doesn't have sparc support yet - it's coming in the not too distant future

kupo: was a known problem, but we wanted to go out with x86 support rather than wait

rorx: it's simple enough, just do a 'pfexec pkg refresh --full', then 'pfexec pkg install SUNWfoobar'

rorx: it mostly 'just works'

rorx: unfortunately having a few syncing issues between the package infrastructure and the gui

Gman: I guess I was planning to use package manager to see what I could choose from, to install.. as I was going to install NetBeans and it appears that there is no JDK on OpenSolaris, which surprised me.. so I assume I have to install the JDK package somehow.

Gman: so the announcement on that page is incorrect?

rorx: there is absolutely jdk :)

rorx: installing netbeans installs the jdk i think

http://pkg.opensolaris.org/status shows the packages (in duplicate form)

Gman: hmm, apparently not (NetBeans 6) I got to a point in the setup where it asks for a path to the JDK as it can't find it.. all I could find on my own was a JRE on the system

kupo: sort of - the first sentence talks about the source code (which is compatible), the second sentence talks about sun's current OS binary image, which doesn't

rorx: strange!

Gman: very confusing?

rorx: pfexec pkg install SUNWj6dev

kupo: yes, it is a little

Gman: thanks

kupo: i'll try and get it fixed

Gman: My last use of Solaris was 8.0.. I notice that for some things you still can use pkgadd and pkgrm.. or have they been enhanced to handle the IPS format.. or is the infrastructure designed to be compatible with the old canonical pkg format as well?

rorx: oh, things have change a *lot* :)

rorx: right, there's some primitive compatibility there between pkgadd/pkgrm and IPS

rorx: where possible you should use IPS

but you can use pkgadd/pkgrm to add SVr4 packages as usual

Gman: I see, the output of pkgadd looked similar to what I remember on Solaris 8, so I assumed those tools might still be the same..

just remember you'll likely have 2 different package lists :)

IPS installs some bits to convince pkgadd/pkgrm that there are installed packages iirc

Gman: oh really? so they maintain separate indexes eh?

it's probably not had a huge amount of testing

rorx: yep

Gman: but I assume in the OpenSolaris case, the whole OEM system is composed and managed by IPS, so on a clean system, there should be no legacy pkg registry, till you install something that uses that system?

Gman: is there a quick way to distinguish between the two package formats? since don't they both use the .pkg extension?

rorx: right

there's no IPS package format right now

so you can only install from repositories pretty much

Gman: I grabbed the disc already

Gman: how do i boot from cdrom in openboot 3.23

oh wait i got it

wait no i don't

'boot cdrom'

"Bad magic number in disk label"

that suggests a bad burn

damn

weird tho I checksummed it

rorx: don't you hang around FreeBSD and Mac OS X channels as well

ninjaslim: yes, sure do.

rorx: ok just confirming that i knew you from somehwer

ninjaslim: how do you like OS?

rorx: i like it better than Linux

i'm waiting for the bts release so i can setup a spare desktop to triple boot for my boss

rorx: but right now since there is no option for a minimal install or at least custom install, it's not an option for me, but i do like what i see and i do like the concepts, i don't like that they're taking Solaris and turning it into pretty much Linux, i mean we've OpenSolaris distros pop up and that's just does not make me feel as optimistic about OS

what's the bts release

ninjaslim: some degree of installer flexibility will be provided in november (hopefully)

ninjaslim: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/auto_install/ is what will land (in a early phase)

ninjaslim: bts = back to school, it's essentially a re-spin of 2008.05 to fix some bad bugs in the packaging

Gman: that's what i've heard, which is why i haven't passed up on OpenSolaris, that doesn't mean i'd give up FreeBSD and Mac OS X but more than likely run another box with OpenSolaris as all my files are remotely accessible anyway

ninjaslim: agreed, that's been a worry here as well. It looks like they've made some strides on i86pc device support.. I was surprised it pretty much detected everything on my 5 year old Dell notebook. But yeah, I'm not so sure about this IPS system yet.. not too crazy about how it mixes everything with the system.

Sun is really pushing hard to counter Linux aren't they with OpenSolaris with stuff like this BTS release

along with shipping an additional DVD which includes things like virtualbox, openoffice, etc.. and an OpenSolaris virtual image that includes things like developer tools and AMP stacks

the DVD itself won't be available on download, but the re-spin CD will be replacing the current download on opensolaris.com

rorx: it's early work, it'll improve pretty rapidly

ninjaslim: yeah, certainly

I still say they should've stuck with rpm or deb

ninjaslim: it's more a realization that it needs to tackle the developer desktop market a little more

and students are early developers

why is ss-dev so huge?

Blackknight: because it includes a lot of stuff

rorx: IPS seems like a very nice binary package manager, imo wip but still

should make for a great Java dev platform, from what I've seen.

ninjaslim, do like I do, install it and remove the desktop packages

ninjaslim: yeah, just think it should root at /usr/pkg or something, a la pkgsrc or the ports collection.

Blackknight: compiler, IDE, docs, headers, etc..

http://vitaliy.info/?p=73 get rid of gnome

Blackknight: that seems hackish to me, i'm too used to BSD, i start out with nothing but a command line and then i work my way up to my Xfce desktop, i actually have a post-install script nowadays that installs all the packages that i normally install, pulls my config archive from online where it's hosted or was hosted, and then inserts the config files and i'm good to go

yeah

I'm used to CentOS which includes nothing but ssh

minimum install

rorx: you mean you want separation of base and everything else

it's hackish but I didn't see any other option

ninjaslim: right, seems inconsistent, since there is all ready a history, even in Solaris of separating third party software from the system.

Blackknight: i thought CentOS was a rebuild of RH, how is it any different than the default RH install which ues (ick) Gnome

and God forbid they ever use Deb and God forbid they ever use RPM even more

it is a recompile

rorx: really i didn't know that...maybe it's a byproduct of Linux leadership, most Linuxes just stick everything together and if that's what OS is trying to counter, then well they may want to stick as close as possible to it

we just kickstart servers with no packages installed

I saw a presentation earlier from Ian basically saying that there were reasons for not using deb.. and I think he mentioned ZFS snapshots as a reason, but he didn't go into details.. didn't sound convincing. But then I still haven't delved into IPS enough to see how different it is.

ninjaslim: certainly is due to its influence.. hence the concerns we were talking about initially.

Gman: so where's development headed, how long do you think before we getting something that is quite suitable for the desktop and can hold its own to FreeBSD and some of the more quality Linux distros on the desktop (I suppose we both agree that OS 2008.05 was more of preview rather than something to rely on)

rpm is fine once you learn how to use it

i know how to use rpm and it's not fun there are better far better

yeah, I guess

could just use tgz like good old slackware

rorx: Linux has somehow become the defacto standard for Unix development

there's reasons for that

Blackknight: that's what they use on Solaris, the SVR4 format is i think that, and some people swear by it, i like more automation and i suppose others do too, hence why IPS came along

SVR4 pkg format is not a simple tgz

Auralis: i'm sure it isn't, it has some additional information tagged on right, the Slackware packages do too about deps and such

another thing Ian wasn't very clear about was how OS related to Solaris.. he talked about Solaris having two branches.. but wasn't clear where OS was derived from. I always thought it was from the development branch, but I'm not sure. But then when he mentioned that SUN may offer support options for OS, that maybe it really was a fork from the stable, Solaris 10.

ninjaslim: svr4 is a cpio archiv with extra content information files

OS is the major front for development, Solaris has longer release cycles and technology from OS will be included from release to release in Solaris, that's how i understand it

Auralis: and SUN's pkg format is tar based or cpio as well?

cpio

so like Fedora/RHES?

think so, isn't RPM based on some kind of cpio as well? probably an incompatible type.

bah, come on NetBeans.. you can at least add a button to the Gnome menu

NetBeans bahhh

gvim + screen + zsh + xterm +/- emacs + gcc +/- gdb

heh

does a IPS emacs install add a menu item at least? B)

dunno

again i've bbarely used OS

just tracking development up to this point

FreeBSD + Mac OS X is all i need atm

ninjaslim: hopefully you'll see something better by november, if not, april

ninjaslim: it's improving pretty rapidly, but some of the technology is still new

and there's still a large amount of changes coming down the line

rorx: it does, pkill gnome-panel

iirc

(unless it doesn't actually install a .desktop entry into /usr/share/applications)

what's the compiler name in sunstudio?

Gman: one thing that needs to happen is that the IPS repo needs to grow, btw what's the deal with linux compat on OS, what's been tested, is the implementation diff than the one on FreeBSD in concept or what

rorx: ok, it sucks - http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/auto_install/

eek, wrong url

rorx: http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=1586

Gman: yeah, doesn't seem to.. so much for consistency. VirtualBox's install did add one.. but that was done via a pkg.

seems like that would be a NetBeans bug, not indiana.

rorx: put the contents of the following into /usr/share/applications - http://pastebin.ca/1187014

So would something like NetBeans be available via IPS as well?

rorx: right, they suck

lo

(obviously named netbeans.desktop) or somethign similar

Gman updates the bug.

hm, compiz fusion does not work with xinerama?

how do I list package contents?

Blackknight: pkg contents -m package_name

(you don't actually need the -m, but i have it in finger memory)

use -r for remote packages not installed

got another bitching, what fuck is that default font in sxce gnome?

sans is fucking ugly

hmm, I tried that

[root@opensolaris] ~ > pkg contents ss-dev

PATH

that's all I get

Gman: sorry, I said 6.0 earlier.. apparently it's 6.1, the current latest.

Blackknight: ahh, that's because it's an empty package (meta-package)

I see

is suncc an alias for cc?

if you do -m it'll tell you the packages it's depending on (and thus, will pull in)

so there's probably an easy way to get the contents based on that list

question is how to get configure scripts to see the other compiler

Blackknight: yes, an alias

export CC=cc for example

ah, thanks

hey all

Gman: made some progress today thanks for your help earlier

I guess everyone is asleep

kupo: great

I'm using sol10 for now

perhaps I'll switch later when opensol is ready for sparc

I'd like to max this ultra80 out with ram

i need 8 more 256 ram chips

http://pastebin.ca/1187129

some one mind to look at that?

i want to do lu from b95 ot b96 and it fails at the zones

root is zfs

hiya kupo

how do i set proxy for terminal, i am not able to use ping, pkgadd etc

what's SXCE? Solaris Express?

community edition

yep

roshan: not sure what you mean proxy for terminal

roshan: export http_proxy="http://asd:3128"

'morning all

Coffeee

Coffee

more Coffee

Elo

More coffe

Yes

yo

timsf: Coffee

Yeah, definitely.

:)

timsf: Your brother has nice view from office. :)

Really?

flickr

:)

Yeah, that pretty much beats mine hands down.

:)

My view is as pretty as an airport. http://www.eastpoint.ie/move/eastpoint-gallery.htm

Mm concrete.

:)

those pics are on a good day, usually they're _dark_ grey from the rain :)

:)

morning folks

any idea why after a luupgrade from snv91 to 96 (with zfs root) and a luactivate to the new BE ludelete tells me it cannot delete the old BE?

it thinks its the last BE on the disk

lustatus marks it as can delete=yes

Is grub installed on that boot environment?

yeah

Berny: you did reboot after luactivate, right? ;)

i have two BEs on that disk (same rootpool)

_mary_kate_, obviously :-P

hmm, if i force the ludelete of the old be, does that also delete the old root-fs and the snapshot used to create the new BE's root-fs?

Berny: You can test and tell us. :)

hmpf

Linux myzone 2.6.18 BrandZ fake linux i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

but if i destroy that dataset and the snapshot, it shouldn't affect the new/cloned/promoted dataset right? i mean all things unchanged between the two dataset should remain in the new dataset after destroying the old one?

codestr0m: Cool. How well it work?

codestr0m: Did you find a Cent OS 5 tarball?

bda: found a fedora one.. I need to get networking up now. then going to test skype and acrobatreader

http://download.openvz.org/template/precreated/.../fedora-9-i386-default.tar.gz

Nice.

I've only logged in and haven't played much more/tested anything

once it's all working. I'll write up a complete howto on my blog

URL?

Berny: If you create a clone than you can promote it to be full fs. The original fs becomes a clone and then you can destroy it.

Berny: I suppose that since beadm does something like that, that ludelete will also

bda: I'll post it when it's done. maybe later today

http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/1187243

bda was just going to add it to rss, but ko :)

Berny: Weird

hmm, i could try to get rid of the snapshots and try again?

bda: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Codestrom-OpenSolaris

ta

Berny: Probably

is snv_91 mounted anywherE?

hmm, i cannot the destroy the snapshot because it has dependent clones

nope only b96 is mounted

Berny: TRy zfs promote rpool/ROOT/b96

just on it :-)

eeek

cannot promote - out of space

yuck

:/

Coffee

can somebody paste "kstat -n <yournetworkinterface>" please?

sartek: http://nopaste.snit.ch/13904

bda: thanks

np

bda, you shouldn't need to pfexec kstat..

Just habit.

bda: I'm not finding what I'm doing wrong.. is it possible for myzone to just share the ip connectivity with bge0 from the host.. I'm pulling an ip via dhcp

No, it needs its own IP.

You could do something like putting the zone on a private network, add an iface:alias in the global for that private network, and then set up NAT on it.

Or put another card in the system and add it to the zone.

bda: laptop :P

I can't think of another way to do it, sorry.

would it be possible to setup an iface:alias in the global zone and manually just add another ip from the subnet the global zone is pulling dhcp from?

You can just set the zone's IP, if you're going to do that.

I know if you set type ip-exclusive that makes it easier..

ip-exclusive requires a dedicated iface.

bda: ..aha.. ok.. I'll give that a try would the way with the alias work as well?

does ip-exclusive work with wireless interfaces?

I imagine so. But if you just want to set a static for the zone, that's trivial... depends on your network, and how many weapons your network administrator has, obviously.

Is there a native replacement for the gnu locate package on solaris x86?

kaleb, grep /var/sadm/install/contents

kaleb: sec I'll grab my blog entry on this exact question

theres also bart

bart?

nancy?

McCloud?

kaleb: tell me if http://www.codestrom.com/wandering/2008/08/slocate-on-open.html is useful

man bart

seanmcg: bart is no way shape or form a replacement for slocate

while some of the functionality can be duplicated it's not the same

codestr0m: thanks, I had the exact idea, except I was thinking of throwing it into a database, however there is probably no need

kaleb: yeah. I tested the overall performance of it and it's not bad on my laptop.. could could cron it like slocate to run each night.. otherwise. serves the purpose..

codestr0m: I will go for the cron setup, I tend to use "locate" every day

I should have added that to the entry.. I might update it.. hmm.

hello

Coffee

is there any difference between this version of solaris to the one that sun has on their site ?

what version ?

10

you mean s10u5 probably.

yeah

s10u5 doesn't have some newer features that SXCE does, SXCE being the ongoing development version of solaris

ok

anyone installed x/gdm in brandz?

hal-0.5.11-2.fc9.i386 from updates has depsolving problems

--> hal conflicts with dummy-fedora-core-4

Error: hal conflicts with dummy-fedora-core-4

heureka

After doing a pkg image-update from 2008.5 to svn_95 and reboot, the opensolaris-1 boot image always reboots after 10 secs of booting

any clue why it just reboots without a message?

To little coffee

What is solaris based on?

AT&T UNIX(r) System V Release 4

(to which sun contributed a lot of code at the time)

hello... shg same question here

Im using ubuntu, and wanted to know some differences between opensolaris and ubuntu...

first of all which is very obvious: different kernel

SysV vs Debian styles for admin commands.

There is a position that requires experiences in solaris

I'm a slackware linux admin

[shg]: Where?

trochej dusts off his CV

Somewhere in cali

Well opensolaris has gnu userland as default. But i prefer the solaris userland, it can easily be switched

Headhunter in Georgia got my info from a friend

Too far away for me.

[shg]: solaris is very different from any unix at the admin level. if you claim solaris experience and only know linux, you'll look very silly during the interview

er, any linux

Yeah, I'm not claiming to know solaris, that's why I'm here

I'm about to download it

and when perspective employers ask for "Solaris experience" that usually has the implicit implication that they're asking for Sun hardware experience, as well.

so solaris=unix ubuntu=linux... now what about desktop applications and all that...?

merely downloading Solaris isn't going to give you that.

if the position requires experience in solaris, you may want to get familiar with that (Solaris 10) and not a random distribution of OpenSolaris.

desktop applications are more or less the same batch.

delewis hm..

is it as friendly as ubuntu?

delewis how would one get experience with sun hardware without sun hardware?

[shg]: get an entry-level job that includes solaris alongside something you know (like linux)

I see

I'm in a pickle

or buy some sun hardware on ebay

[shg]: if you're interviewing for any real sysadmin position, you should already have access to some hardware.

(but that won't give you experience with the large stuff, which is quite different)

[shg]: Vm's ?

and if you don't, you clearly aren't cut out for the position.

virtualbox on liunux

_mary_kate_ I agree and this is a datacenter so probably not

Oh well

I'll download it anyway to start learning

[shg]: if you want to learn, you should check out docs.sun.com

Ok, thanks

Gman: awake?

running "startx -- /usr/bin/Xnest :1" and get Unable to open display.. what am I missing here inside my zone?

codestr0m: your linux zone?

_mary_kate_: yeah

any reason why i got cksum errors on a zfs file without any known provocation? maybe it's corruption that happened through xvm?

doing a scrub seems to crash the system before reaching 20% when in xvm mode but i can scan the whole system fine when not in xvm

I've tried various DISPLAY settings and I must be missing something DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 DISPLAY=:0.0 DISPLAY=globalzone:0

are you sure the global X server listens for TCP connections?

_mary_kate_: maybe not.. is that a gdm config options... (where is that?)

anyone recommend any tools to analyize extended accounting data?

_mary_kate_: I changed the setting in gdmsetup, but still not having success. it's almost like it's trying to connect via ipv6

You guys made it seem like Solaris is a huge difference from Linux.. why?

because it's not linux

[shg]: because it's an entirely different codebase? (assuming you don't count the gnu things which probably aren't required)

any more than FreeBSD is linux

I didn't say it WAS linux

A Linux administrator could go from Linux to Solaris administration in under a week

You made it seem like it's a totally different planet

asyd is not agree

uhm.

UNIX is UNIX, it's true.

And it'd take you about a week to read the Admin Guides.

but you need more to understand all :)

But actually *learning* how to do things properly...

Yes, comprehension and "fucking about" are very disimiliar.

Learning how each sys call works is different from being able to administer a system.

It's took me about a year to get comfortable with most of the differences.

uh.

How long have you been an admin?

How many differnet UNIXes have you touched?

3 or 4 years

Not very many

Right. Let's just say the devil is the details, even if the details are ten feet tall and pissing in your face. :)

does compiz run on opensolaris?

bda, I totally agree with you.. I really really do

It's just that apperances initially is that Solaris is to Linux as Windows is to... Stability

You just compared apples and oranges twice.

I disagree

[shg]: Are you looking at OpenSolaris or Solaris 10?

Because OpenSolaris is designed for a user experience.

OpenSolaris

Right.

Go get SXCE.

Ok

[shg] runs to go get SXCE

While it's downloading, start reading the SysAdmin Guides on docs.sun. :)

Uhm.. what's SXCE?

:P

Solaris Express Community Edition.

Yeah, I'm watching screencasts and reading stuff

There are bi-weekly builds of Nevada that come out of Sun. They're closer to what you will see in production than OpenSolaris by far.

i think what i thought was a hardware error is really a bug in zfs :P

But they're still bleeding edge compared to Solaris 10 itself.

Ok

So what's up with Solaris 10 and SXCE?

[shg]: I've been admining Linux boxes since 1998. It took me about a year to find my feet with Solaris, even though I'd deployed a fair amount of it to production.

S10 is a released product., SXCE is the next version of it

Oh ok

.. not released yet, you get devel snapshots

There's a depth you'll find in Solaris that you just won't in Linux or other Free Unixes.

http://pastebin.com/md859c07 please explain me the error

Stric: What, you didn't get the memo about OpenSolaris eq Solaris Next? ;)

bda if that is the case, then this is what I've been looking for

Linux is fun and really nice but I want to really learn something useful.

Well. Welcome to useful.

It's not perfect, but it's pretty fucking awesome. :)

You will learn to hate patching, but that's probably all.

(patching will be much better in the Near Future)

Heh

Have you looked at DTrace yet? :)

I'm looking for the freaking SXCE download!

roshansingh, whats onbld ? a file or directory ?

which ever, pkgadd could not open it..

[shg]: http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ # Solaris Express Community Edition

No x64? aww

:P

it is x64

Yes.

seanmcg: i donot have much idea about bfu i am trying to bfu crossbow http://blogs.sun.com/stw/

.. too

I didn't see an x64

solaris doesn't have seperate 64-bit versions

Oh ok

groovy

64-bit has been integrated since whenever the ultrasparc came out.. like 10 years ago or something

[shg]: Solaris has been 64bit since like... 98 on SPARC.

[shg] gets all excited

And x86 since the early 2ks, I think.

The installer will boot 32bit, but after that it's all 64.

bda: 2005 i believe (first supported in S10

aha!

roshansingh, so whats onbld ? a file or a directory ? do a 'file onbld' on it.

seanmcg: it says no such file or directory

Wow, it won't let me register

Says email already exists but prior it said that there was a field missing

O_o

seanmcg: i am new to solaris and want to work on crossbow but i have not much idea about things here

bda finally builds his own pidgin, praying it stops with hte damn crashing.

that's pidgin for you.

It won't let me register!!

delewis: srsly

roshansingh, are you in the directory where onbld is ?

reg.sun.com/register is broken

Not good for a potential solarisian

bda: well. on the final stretch for this stupid skype+acrobat reader thing..

[shg]: I just registered an account. It worked fine.

Hrm?

Does it not like my support@ email?

had to change a few perms.. install all sorts of crap in the zone.. (including fonts) and now just need to add a user.. and maybe easylife will run

[shg]: Seems unlikely?

codestr0m: You can't just install that crap with yum or whatever?

bda: skype isn't in fc9 yum

I could probably start over.. choose ubloatu and go from there

bda turns out, I changed support to something else and it worked

[shg]: That's.. really weird.

codestr0m: Heh.

, but I doubt it would make things much easier.. considering I'll still need a bunch of other crap maybe

Any other weird things I should know about? heh

[shg]: Oh, that's the other thing. We have these things called branded zones, so you can run Linux in a zone, without the overhead of full virtualization. Of course, if you want to run Xen, that's in the distro now by default too.

codestr0m: Just threw Fedora Core in one (but Linux 2.6 support is still experimental, so).

bda: ? I know

I didn't mean to tab that. :)

seanmcg: i had downloaded a sparc file from the site then extracted it then went in the directory and then used onbld

[shg]: assuming I get something useful.. my blog will have an idiot's proof guide to doing some possibly interesting or useful things with brandz specifically 2.6 kernel things

sstallion: here now

roshansingh, what sparc file ?

http://dlc.sun.com/osol/netvirt/.../nightly-bins-20080307.sparc.tar.bz2

seanmcg: is there any channel for crossbow

no channel that I know of, there is the crossbow-discuss alias/jive forum.

seanmcg: where can i get more info on bfu

ok. final piece of this puzzle.. from inside my brandz zone. can I give it permission to access something inside my global zone? (/export/home/foo/Desktop)

roshansingh, I think I see that you trying to do. that nightly-bins-20080307.sparc.tar.bz2 is the bfu, but you need the bfu tools which are elsewhere

on the crossbow snapshots page theres the bfu script needed for crossbow: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/crossbow/snapshots/

seanmcg: ok

some info on bfu: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/.../#5_3_using_bfu_to_install_on

codestr0m oh really...