| time |
nick |
message |
02:40 |
<saiful> |
i forgot my glassfish admin password. what do i do ? |
06:16 |
<adollfff> |
what's the differnece of xhtml to jspx, xhtml to html, jspx to jsp |
06:25 |
<nikolaj_a> |
Hi guys :) |
06:25 |
<nikolaj_a> |
Anyone awake in here? |
06:32 |
<adollfff> |
hi nikolaj_a |
06:33 |
<adollfff> |
hey do you know the differnece of xhtml and html |
06:33 |
<adollfff> |
i am looking for a discussion about this |
06:35 |
<nikolaj_a> |
adollfff: XHTML is a XML-compliant version of HTML. |
06:36 |
<adollfff> |
yeah i just found a tutorial about it and its motivation tnx |
07:29 |
<adollfff> |
nikolaj_a: are you using jspx or xhtml? |
08:45 |
<nikolaj_a> |
Isn't it possible to use a configured data source in a custom realm implementation? |
12:10 |
<jdlee> |
morning |
12:11 |
<AlexisMP> |
AlexisMP afternoon :) |
12:12 |
<jdlee> |
:) |
12:13 |
<jdlee> |
you're in paris, right? so it's...2sh there? |
12:49 |
<AlexisMP> |
AlexisMP Paris, indeed. 9 hours ahead. |
12:51 |
<jdlee> |
9...ok... i thought 7, but I was close :) |
12:52 |
<jdlee> |
i've always wanted to visit France. i took 4 years of French in college, but I don't get it to use much^H^H^H^Hat all in the middle of Oklahoma, so I don't know if I'd even rate as having "survival skills" now :) |
12:58 |
<cheeser> |
we have a new german friend living down the street so maybe i can finally brush up on mein deutsch |
13:01 |
<jdlee> |
that might be a kampf! :P |
13:27 |
<jdlee> |
hmmm...pending shoal release. i've really been trying to find a project to start so I can play with that |
13:28 |
<jdlee> |
s/pending// |
14:06 |
<ankylose1> |
good developpement is a long road :( |
14:16 |
<cheeser> |
unless you use RoR apparently. |
14:16 |
<cheeser> |
but that makes for the Bataan Death March for maintenance |
14:16 |
<cheeser> |
8^)= |
14:18 |
<nikolaj_a> |
Oh, the drama :) I can already hear the music! |
14:20 |
<ankylose1> |
i develop heavy client |
14:21 |
<[pwgr]> |
there's that word again... "heavy". Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the earth's gravitational pull? |
14:22 |
<cheeser> |
yeah. the earth sucks. |
14:22 |
<[pwgr]> |
for 13 points... name that movie |
14:23 |
<[pwgr]> |
hint: hans gruber was not in the movie! |
14:23 |
<cheeser> |
that one's easy: http://tinyurl.com/5n95t7 |
14:23 |
<ankylose1> |
:) |
14:24 |
<[pwgr]> |
holy crap, how did i miss out on that... carebears movie ? |
14:24 |
<cheeser> |
i've seen it several times. |
14:24 |
<cheeser> |
8^)= |
14:25 |
<cheeser> |
cheeser has a younger sister. |
14:25 |
<[pwgr]> |
hehe i had two younger sisters |
14:25 |
<[pwgr]> |
and they had many carebears |
14:25 |
<cheeser> |
and never saw the movie, eh? |
14:25 |
<cheeser> |
lucky bastard |
14:26 |
<[pwgr]> |
nope, at least i didnt |
14:26 |
<jdlee> |
well, for what it's worth...i care.... i care.... i care... |
14:27 |
<jdlee> |
At Shady Acres Funeral Home, we care... Yeah? Well I don't! *click* |
14:28 |
<[pwgr]> |
not familiar with that one |
14:28 |
<[pwgr]> |
wasnt shady acres the retirement home they always talked about on the golden girls? |
14:29 |
<[pwgr]> |
nevermind that was shady pines |
14:30 |
<cheeser> |
high strung++ |
14:31 |
<cheeser> |
for extra credit, name Peter Gibbons's apartment complex. |
14:33 |
<[pwgr]> |
haha |
14:33 |
<[pwgr]> |
when i was in the hospital i watched officespace like 10 times |
14:35 |
<[pwgr]> |
what was the name of the trailer park where alex rogan lived? |
14:35 |
<cheeser> |
the answer is: Morning Wood. |
14:35 |
<cheeser> |
who is alex rogan? |
14:36 |
<[pwgr]> |
last starfighter? |
14:36 |
<cheeser> |
oh, right. |
14:36 |
<cheeser> |
hrm. been a long time... |
14:36 |
<cheeser> |
no clue |
14:36 |
<[pwgr]> |
me either :) |
14:36 |
<cheeser> |
hopefully it's something equally tacky |
14:37 |
<[pwgr]> |
no, if it was that clever i'd reemmber |
14:37 |
<cheeser> |
8^)= |
14:37 |
<cheeser> |
i saw that movie way too many times. |
14:40 |
<[pwgr]> |
heh something my wife and i were trying to remember the other night on the car ride home... where was elwood blues' apartment located |
14:40 |
<[pwgr]> |
was it in chicago in the blues brothers movie ? |
14:45 |
<nikolaj_a> |
Wow, I just improved my script running time from 4 lines per second to 1,000 lines per second just by regenerating Oracle table statistics... |
14:46 |
<nikolaj_a> |
(I'm parsing a CSV file and running a couple of queries per line in the file) |
14:48 |
<jdlee> |
query optimizers++ |
14:49 |
<jdlee> |
helps when the metadata's right :P |
14:49 |
<nikolaj_a> |
All my queries had a cost of 1 or 2 |
14:49 |
<nikolaj_a> |
Not that it helped me until I fixed the stats :P |
14:53 |
<ankylose1> |
ingram lag |
14:54 |
<ankylose1> |
ingram need to regenerating oracle table statistics ;) |
14:58 |
<[pwgr]> |
oracle++ |
14:59 |
<jdlee> |
postgresql and autovacuum++ :) |
14:59 |
<jdlee> |
wait..as a sun employee, should I say that? :P |
14:59 |
<[pwgr]> |
why not ? |
15:00 |
<[pwgr]> |
oracle has equiv of autovacuum though |
15:00 |
<[pwgr]> |
oracle also has dynamic sampling so that stale stats dont kill you |
15:01 |
<[pwgr]> |
i'ts just that during dev, query plans have a habit of staying cached |
15:02 |
<jdlee> |
as a loyal company man, I should be pushing mysql ;) |
15:02 |
<nikolaj_a> |
jdlee: Or JavaDB :P |
15:03 |
<[pwgr]> |
why? sun offers postgresql support services as well, do they not ? |
15:03 |
<jdlee> |
maybe, but we own MySQL |
15:03 |
<jdlee> |
i think there us is some sort of OpenSolaris, pgsql thing |
15:04 |
<[pwgr]> |
pgsql comes with solaris10 as well |
15:04 |
<[pwgr]> |
sun doesnt need to own the brand to make money off of the support |
15:05 |
<[pwgr]> |
and i believe their strategy is not to make billions of dollars on selling mysql licenses haha |
15:06 |
<[pwgr]> |
rather, to make money off of supporting the poor shlubs trying to keep already purchased mysql up and running |
15:06 |
<[pwgr]> |
or, already downloaded for free mysql |
15:06 |
<[pwgr]> |
which is more the case |
15:07 |
<[pwgr]> |
and sun employed postgresql developers before they employed mysql developers |
15:08 |
<[pwgr]> |
so... no need to be scared about incrementing postgresql karma! |
15:09 |
<jdlee> |
[pwgr]: 8-) |
15:16 |
<[pwgr]> |
ok, who here does significant jpa work ? |
15:17 |
<jdlee> |
i used to, fcvo "significant" |
15:18 |
<[pwgr]> |
more than two entities... more than fiddle toy app stuff :) |
15:33 |
<jdlee> |
ok..i've written production apps with several entities, though probably no more than 10 or 15 in one app |
15:34 |
<[pwgr]> |
run inside glassfish? or something else ? |
15:35 |
<jdlee> |
GlassFish, yes |
15:35 |
<[pwgr]> |
w/ session beans ? |
15:35 |
<nikolaj_a> |
Isn't it possible to use a configured data source in a custom realm implementation? |
15:35 |
<[pwgr]> |
or spring ? |
15:36 |
<[pwgr]> |
nikolaj_a: good question... i dont know for sure but i would hope so |
15:36 |
<nikolaj_a> |
[pwgr]: I can't figure out how :( |
15:36 |
<[pwgr]> |
nikolaj_a: might require special placement of jdbc drivers and such maybe |
15:36 |
<nikolaj_a> |
[pwgr]: The drivers are there. It's a JNDI problem from what I can see. |
15:37 |
<nikolaj_a> |
I do a: asadmin list-jndi-entries |
15:37 |
<nikolaj_a> |
And there are the UserTransaction entry and *sometimes* a jdbc entry. |
15:37 |
<[pwgr]> |
hmmm, maybe a matter of using the right jndi ctx factory and lookup name? |
15:38 |
<jdlee> |
[pwgr]: i don't use spring, no |
15:38 |
<nikolaj_a> |
[pwgr]: I've created the data sources with asadmin create-jdbc-resource (or somethinkg like that). |
15:38 |
<[pwgr]> |
jdlee: use DAO patterns? |
15:39 |
<[pwgr]> |
nikolaj_a: are you able to see the datasources with the jndi browser in the app server's admin gui interface ? |
15:39 |
<jdlee> |
yes |
15:39 |
<nikolaj_a> |
[pwgr]: Nope, that gives a stacktrace :( |
15:39 |
<[pwgr]> |
jdlee: using persistence context annotations? |
15:39 |
<jdlee> |
typically a thin wrapper around the EM, but there are occasional needs for more...advanced query ops that I abstract in a dao' |
15:39 |
<nikolaj_a> |
Something about UserTransaction not able to being listed. |
15:39 |
<jdlee> |
yes |
15:39 |
<[pwgr]> |
[pwgr] is leading up to a real question |
15:39 |
<jdlee> |
haha |
15:40 |
<[pwgr]> |
you injected entity managers or entity manager factories ? |
15:40 |
<jdlee> |
EMs |
15:40 |
<[pwgr]> |
ok, and use container transactions? didnt use UserTransaction yourself ? |
15:40 |
<jdlee> |
right...CMT |
15:41 |
<nikolaj_a> |
jdlee: They might have thread issues. |
15:41 |
<[pwgr]> |
ok, nevermind then :) |
15:41 |
<jdlee> |
and that has nothing to do with country music, cheeser ;) |
15:41 |
<jdlee> |
whew! |
15:41 |
<jdlee> |
jdlee dodged a real question :P |
15:41 |
<nikolaj_a> |
jdlee: Haha :D |
15:41 |
<[pwgr]> |
oh... did you use transaction scoped or extended entity managers ? |
15:41 |
<[pwgr]> |
stateful or stateless session beans ? |
15:42 |
<jdlee> |
iirc, stateful and stateless both, and txn-scoped EMs |
15:42 |
<jdlee> |
i think.. it's been a while |
15:42 |
<[pwgr]> |
ok |
15:42 |
<jdlee> |
i spent the last your is software architecture land where I didn't get to code :( |
15:43 |
<[pwgr]> |
ultimately im just wondering how many using JPA end up attempting to use longlived entity managers |
15:43 |
<[pwgr]> |
because the way toplink implements their JPA provider... using long lived entity managers is NOT a good thing to do |
15:45 |
<jdlee> |
hehe |
15:47 |
<[pwgr]> |
but, im wondering if the extended entity manager stuff does stuff more intelligently with syncing to global caches and such |
15:48 |
<[pwgr]> |
there doesnt seem to be a way to use extended entity managers outside of a container |
15:48 |
<[pwgr]> |
so, im hoping the extended entity manager stuff INSIDE the container uses fancier lifecycle management under the hood |
15:49 |
<nikolaj_a> |
[pwgr]: I doubt that :P |
15:50 |
<[pwgr]> |
it wouldnt be difficult to do |
15:51 |
<[pwgr]> |
but, something i'll have to test for myself |
15:54 |
<[pwgr]> |
nikolaj_a: so you configged a datasource in glassfish, but cant find it in the web gui jndi browser? you say it throws an expection? |
15:54 |
<[pwgr]> |
ok nevermind :) |
15:56 |
<[pwgr]> |
damn it's almost lunchtime and ive got no work done |
15:56 |
<[pwgr]> |
i hate wednesdays |
16:32 |
<ankylose1> |
what is the best way if i want send message a mdb to an another jms queue or topic |
16:34 |
<ankylose1> |
hum nevermind |
18:54 |
<cheeser> |
does anyone know if JPA 2.0 will support naming the FKs? |
18:57 |
<jdlee> |
? |
18:57 |
<[pwgr]> |
doubt it |
18:57 |
<cheeser> |
jpa 2.0-- |
18:57 |
<cheeser> |
8^)= |
18:57 |
<cheeser> |
jcp-- |
18:58 |
<cheeser> |
jdlee: hibernate supports this: @ForeignKey(name = "HEYTHERE") |
18:58 |
<jdlee> |
hmm...not sure I've ever used that |
18:58 |
<cheeser> |
i haven't but i should. |
18:58 |
<jdlee> |
is that a JPA annotation? |
18:58 |
<cheeser> |
makes it hard to write scripts to update since the FK names change from build to build. |
18:58 |
<cheeser> |
it's a hibernate annot |
18:58 |
<[pwgr]> |
eclipselink has similar stuff, but it's all proprietary stuff... i'm really anxious to see what jpa 2.0 is willing to cover |
18:59 |
<jdlee> |
iirc, the JPA2 group has been pretty open about what they're doing |
18:59 |
<cheeser> |
the keep touting the criteria stuff but there are better improvements. |
18:59 |
<jdlee> |
i saw linda dimichaels (?) talk at JavaOne, and she was quite detailed |
18:59 |
<cheeser> |
maybe i'll have to shake a few branches and see what falls out |
18:59 |
<[pwgr]> |
yeah will be a shame if jpa2 turns out to only be criteria |
18:59 |
<jdlee> |
cheeser: also saw her in the halls when I was in SCA :P |
18:59 |
<cheeser> |
jdlee: hires presentations++ |
18:59 |
<cheeser> |
HDPeople++ |
18:59 |
<cheeser> |
8^)= |
19:01 |
<[pwgr]> |
they really need to get the mapping stuff worked out |
19:02 |
<[pwgr]> |
like being able to implement a real map hehe |
19:03 |
<cheeser> |
yeah. no kidding. |
19:03 |
<cheeser> |
hibernate++ |
19:05 |
<[pwgr]> |
hibernate @NotNull-- |
19:05 |
<[pwgr]> |
er |
19:05 |
<jdlee> |
cheeser: ? |
19:05 |
<[pwgr]> |
people using hibernatespecific crap when jpa stuff exists-- |
19:10 |
<cheeser> |
jdlee: yes? |
19:11 |
<[pwgr]> |
cheeser: you might be able to use the column definiton attribute of the join colum annotation to specify the fk constrain name |
19:12 |
<[pwgr]> |
but not sure how that would work if you have multi column constraint |
19:12 |
<jdlee> |
[13:59] <cheeser> jdlee: hires presentations++ |
19:13 |
<cheeser> |
jdlee: a bad HDTV joke |
19:15 |
<jdlee> |
apparently |
19:15 |
<jdlee> |
[pwgr]: jpa2 will have much, more than criteria |
19:15 |
<jdlee> |
i spent 90 minutes in that presentation, and I know there was more than that :P |
19:22 |
<[pwgr]> |
is the presentation on the webz? |
19:28 |
<jdlee> |
i don't know. they posted some, but those might have been only the general sessions |
20:46 |
<bendahmon> |
Hey... I'm starting up a web app with Netbeans 6.1 and GlassFish V2... And I'm asked for a password.. which password is this? none of the default passwords work :) |
20:48 |
<jdlee> |
does it want the admin password? |
20:48 |
<jdlee> |
does it want the admin passowrd? |
20:49 |
<bendahmon> |
well, it suggests that admin user |
20:49 |
<cheeser> |
jdlee: mag f? |
20:51 |
<jdlee> |
wha? |
20:51 |
<jdlee> |
oh! haha |
20:51 |
<jdlee> |
sometimes this client does weird things and eats my text.. thought it did it this time too and didn't bother to check :P |
20:51 |
<jdlee> |
bendahmon: have you tried adminadmin? |
20:52 |
<bendahmon> |
yep |
20:53 |
<jdlee> |
hmm |
20:53 |
<bendahmon> |
ok, after going through all my passwords I managed to find what I changed it to :) |
21:16 |
<jdlee> |
haha |
21:17 |
<[pwgr]> |
helping yourself++ |
21:18 |
<cheeser> |
creating your own problems-- |
21:18 |
<cheeser> |
8^)= |
21:18 |
<[pwgr]> |
ls |
21:19 |
<javabot> |
[pwgr]: wrong window, genius |
21:19 |
<[pwgr]> |
phoooker |
21:20 |
<jdlee> |
hahahaha |
21:20 |
<jdlee> |
w00t! |
21:22 |
<cheeser> |
~javabot++ |
21:22 |
<javabot> |
javabot has a karma level of 174, cheeser |
21:22 |
<[pwgr]> |
rm |
21:22 |
<javabot> |
[pwgr]: wrong window, Einstein |
21:22 |
<[pwgr]> |
mv |
21:22 |
<[pwgr]> |
vi |
21:23 |
<cheeser> |
it used to scan /usr/bin and respond to anything there. but you'd be amazed at how many "Einsteins" are on the net. |
21:23 |
<cheeser> |
8^)= |
21:23 |
<[pwgr]> |
yeah |
21:23 |
<cheeser> |
in fact, i just found another one! |
22:15 |
<ankylose1> |
i am a looser |
22:15 |
<jdlee> |
how ironic is that spelling :P |
22:17 |
<ankylose1> |
javaee is too hard for me |
22:18 |
<ankylose1> |
i don't speak english jdlee :- |
22:20 |
<jdlee> |
ankylose1: ah! that makes a difference |
22:20 |
<jdlee> |
sort of. there are native english speakers that do the same thing |